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R-L151 Likely origin: Ukraine or other western former Soviet states. (R-L151>U106)
Iain McDonald on 10/10/2021 states: 'R-L46 is a second-millennium BC haplogroup. Only 86 of this haplogroup can trace back their ancestry to Europe. About 57% of our testers who know their ancestral origins come from the British Isles, despite the fact the British Isles only represent about 11% of all R-U106.
Despite this, 79 out of the 86 testers in R-L46 come from the British Isles, or about 92%. Despite this amazingly high percentage, the biases involved mean we struggle to separate a really successful migration into the British Isles from a haplogroup that was "born" in Britain or Ireland in the first place. This is doubly complicated by the fact that the remaining seven testers scatter all over northern continental Europe and Scandinavia, mimicking the distribution of many other R-U106 clades. So it's not like one branch of R-L46 migrated from Britain to the continent. R-L46 is one of the best contenders we have for an ancient haplogroup born in Britain, but Iain suspects it's probably still founded in continental Europe and that the main migration to the British Isles happened within the last 2200 years.
R-L46 separates into R-L45 and R-BY35830. Both probably date from the first-millennium BC. R-BY35830 is the smaller branch, with only twenty testers total, only nine of whom know their origins: six English, one Irish, one German and one Pole.'
Abel White-298100 family (1745-1823)
David O. Angell-368552 family
Edward Browne-409300 family (b. 9/9/1586 d. 1610), England
Nathaniel Clark-736711 family b. 1771 New Haven, CT
Sabbath Clarke-68995 family, b.1587, Burton upon Trent, England
Hermann Becker-25366 family, b.1829, Cologne, Germany
JOC: Joseph Everett Franklin/Carter-N59000 family USA
William the Conqueror, Capt. Warman-289913 family 1607 England
R-BY94597
Thomas Reader-153980 family, b.1750, Newfoundland, Canada/England
George Washington Clark-B9236 family, b. 1810 Dinwiddie,VA
R-BY67146
R-Y145581
R-PH1819
R-BY133505
(U106>Z2265>BY30097>FTT8>Z381>Z301>L48>L47>L44>L163>L46>L45> L493>FGC10248>FGC10249)
John Lucock-255969 family, (1706 - 1767) (location England)
BY69072
(U106>Z2265>BY30097>FTT8>Z381>Z301>L48>L47>L44>L163>L46>L45> L493>FGC10248>FGC10249>M8341>FGC10247)
(U106>Z2265>BY30097>FTT8>Z381>Z301>L48>L47>L44>L163>L46>L45> L493>FGC10248>FGC10249>M8341>FGC10247>FGC10245)
Henry Harmon-105285 family b. 1792 Virginia/Germany
(Based on Big Y matches and Big Y block tree) at: my.familytreedna.com
All the Picton's tested have a clade that test to L47>L44>L163>L46>L45>L493>FGC10248>FGC10249 >M8341>FGC10247>FGC10245>FGC10252 which includes FGC10249
Where did the first male Picton come from? Could they have been Flemish? Could they have been Viking?
The Picton's in Pembrokeshire could as likely have been some of the Flemish that came into Pembrokeshire, Wales with Wizo, the Flemish warlord from Flanders.
https://flemish.wp.st-andrews.ac.uk/2015/05/02/the-flemings-of-pembrokeshire/
Vikings:
Raymond Wing has created a new map at: Ancient/Medieval U106 map (easymapmaker.com)
Go to item 69 and I think grave VK384 that shows an individual that has L47>L44>L163>L46>L45>L493>FGC10248>FGC10249 and
Death date: 850-900. This Danish Viking is a close descendent of our Picton ancestors (about one. two or three generations different).
Age: 35-55
Culture: Danish Viking
Paper: Margaryan 2020
Another file [R1b-U106] Ancient DNA database lists the same Viking grave VK384 and also shows the same male clade FGC10249 plus adds an additional SNP called FGC54229. Being only one grave would represent a small number of people. One must scroll down the file until you come to the grave VK384. This grave is in the Hesselbjerg Cemetery, Randlev, Odder, Jutland, Denmark.
This shows that in 850 to 900 AD a man died in Denmark who had a male clade having FGC10249 which is the same as all Male Picton's have. The VK384 Viking could not be an ancester because he has SNP FGC54229 which the Picton's do not have but we would have common ancestors (maybe about one. two or three generations different).
Picton Castle is on the banks of Milford Haven in Pembrokeshire, Wales overlooking the spot where Milford Haven's two bodies of waters merge into a single body of water flowing to the sea.
The following is a quote from the above History of Milford Haven. "From the 790s until the Norman Invasion in 1066, the waterway was used occasionally by Vikings looking for shelter. During one visit in 854, the Viking chieftain Hubba wintered in the Haven with 23 ships. Evidence of metal working in the area was recently excavated, suggesting a level of industrialization in the period 750 - 1100." Could this be how my Picton ancestors got to Pembrokeshire, Wales? Could all this mean the ancestors of the Picton male line in 850 to 900 AD were Danish Vikings and then traveled to and used Milford Haven for winter shelter?
Alternately, considering Wizo, the Flemish warlord, my Picton ancestors could as likely have been Flemings and came into Pembrokeshire, Wales with Wizo, the Flemish warlord. Picton Castle is believed built under the direction and control of Wizo. It is believed that the Flemish also descend from Wiking ancestors. No one knows how our Picton ancestors arrived in Pembrokeshire, Wales.
(U106>Z2265>BY30097>FTT8>Z381>Z301>L48>L47>L44>L163>L46>L45>L493>FGC10248>FGC10249>M8341>FGC10247>FGC10245>FGC10252)
The following five paragraphs are quotes from Brian Swann:
"There are 8 equivalent SNPs between Owen and David Picton’s line and all other Picton lines, which is not that surprising – and really depends when SNP FGC23122 diverged from SNP FGC10252.
If you reckon on Iain Macdonald’s calculations of about 82 years per SNP change, this could represent 82 x 7 = 574 years back to FGC10252 – which is now the ancestral SNP for all bearers of the Picton surname from Wales.
If you take 574 away from the date of David Picton’s birth (1965) [as you both have to share these SNPs in common for FTDNA to have assigned them to you both] - that gets us to 1391, which given all the uncertainties involved in such dating calculations is not bad, and fits in with a branch point of slightly earlier than the 1434 date I usually employ – which will depend on when Jenkin Picton of Newport, Pembrokeshire, fl. 1434, had his four sons. Our working hypothesis is Owen and David’s line descends from the eldest son, John Picton, and all the rest descend from a younger son and Sir Thomas Picton’s line descends from a third son.
R1b-M269 (21881) > L23 (21778) > L51 (21085) > P310 (20963) > L151 (20958) > U106 (5156) > Z2265 (5149) > BY30097 (5124) > FTT8 (4352) > Z381 (4183) > Z301 (3088) > L48 (2473) > L47 (476) > FGC8034 (136) > L44 (131) > FGC6185 (128) > L163 (123) > L46 (78) > L45 (60) > L493 (36) > FGC10248 (21) > FGC10249 (15) > M8341 (9) > FGC10247 (8) > FGC10245 (5) > FGC10252 (4) [Results as of 25 May 2022 for Owen S. Picton and David D. Picton]. The number in black adjacent to the named SNP on the right is the number of branch points identified to date below that SNP.
This shows how we can split all the Picton families in Pembrokeshire into different genetic descent trees"
L493>FGC10248>FGC10249>M8341>FGC10247>FGC10245>FGC10252>FGC10255
L493>FGC10248>FGC10249>M8341>FGC10247>FGC10245>FGC10252>FGC23122
Brian Swann states for R-FGC23122: "we have no paper trails back before about 1730 to 1760 "
L493>FGC10248>FGC10249>M8341>FGC10247>FGC10245>FGC10252>FGC23122>FT15348
L493>FGC10248>FGC10249>M8341>FGC10247>FGC10245>FGC10252> FGC23122>FT15348>FT57120
L493>FGC10248>FGC10249>M8341>FGC10247>FGC10245>FGC10252> FGC23122>FT15348>FT57120>FT68051
Last Modified May 2022
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